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Poll Checker: 2012 Battleground States and Leaners
A new book from Tom Elia A compilation of actual presidential & aggregate US House votes for the nation & for the 'battleground states' from 2000-2010. When Lobsters Take Flight
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wrong wrong and more wrong:
you run the ship you get the credit. or the blame. Hoover did not bring the great depression but FDR gets the credit for getting us out of it. You can not simpy take credit for the good and pass blame for the bad...
Your theory would hold more water if you could unearth quotes from Sen. Obama praising Bush's or the Repubs' leadership for economic policies they hold with which he disagrees.
I'm sure that if Dubya came out in 2005 and said, "We have too many mortgages being taken out by people who can't afford them, so we are going to restrict mortgage availability signficantly, the usual suspects (like ACORN and Chuck Rangel) would have nodded sagely and let him do it.
I'm also sure that markets are just thrilled with the strong possibility of a protectionist, tax-raising Democrat holding the White House for the next four years, and certainly is not battening down the hatches for an extended period of policies unfriendly to investment.
While the idea of blame may be transferable, the statement:
"This was not an inevitable part of the business cycle. It was a failure of leadership in Washington" is pushing the envelope. I'm not sure how letting the people who generate the money actually keep more of it would inevitably lead to a recession. You'd have to willfully ignore all the other factors such as high energy costs to get there from here.
"you run the ship you get the credit"
You may get the credit, but in the case of the President and the economy, you don’t deserve the credit. Bush’s policies wouldn’t have prevented this economic mess anymore than Clinton’s policies would have prevented the .com crash that occurred right after his presidency. Do liberals think Bush should have passed a law preventing working class people from buying homes they couldn’t afford? That is absolutely ridiculous. If he did that, or tried to pass a law that variable rate mortgages were illegal, he would have been hailed as a truely repressive fascist by both the liberal and the economically conservative community. The legislation never would have passed. It would have been like Clinton trying to pass a law in 1999 that prevented people from buying stocks in .com companies. Also, FDR did not pull the US out of the Great Depression. My Grandfather lived through it. Conditions in 1938 were hardly better than they were in 1932. WWII pulled us out of the depression. FDR did, by levying huge taxes on the remaining wealthy, provide some ‘make work’ jobs for a few people, short term, and thereby gave the country the impression that something was being attempted. However, a lot of people argue that he prolonged the depression by his policies, and this argument makes sense when you consider that fact that the depression continued for 8 years after he was in office, and only started to ease up in 1939 when the US started to receive massive manufacturing orders from allied powers to fend off the Nazis.
The dot.com crash (and the NASDAQ collapse) started in March 2000, almost a year before Clinton left the White House.
If Obama is elected, I can only hope that the usual suspects (see above) will hold him accountable just as they do Bush. I can dream, can't I?
(I mean, after all, the Bush-haters were quick to point out that the 2001 recession began before Bush had time to implement policies, and therefore had to be blamed on the failure of economic leadership under Clinton, right?)
Standard lib rhetoric - 'I have no idea wtf I'm talking about but it's Bushes fault'
It's clear that Obama knows no economics, or pretends not to. A recession is a normal result of Monetary Inflation. Whenever the Federal Reserve System artificially lowers the interests rates by increasing the money supply, the stage is set for a coming Price Inflation. The FED, when it pulls back on money creation, as it must to avoid high price inflation, then causes a deflation which cuts back on job creation. A bad economy and unemployment results.
This like being a drunkard: you wake up in the morning with a hangover, so you drink until you get numb. You keep drinking to maintain the good feelings. If you drink enough you pass out, or the drink kills you. If you wake in the morning, you are feeling all the damage you did to your body the day before. Alcohol is a mild poison. The only real solution is to stop drinking, but you continue until you hit bottom. Or die. The politicians have a vested interest in avoiding political pain, even when that pain is the only long term solution. They didn't cause the pain, but they will get the blame. The pain is a result of doing things which hurt America long term. It is the price of political stupidity. The only solution is to bear "necessary" pain. Otherwise, you keep doing actions which will eventually kill you.
I guess if we really want to get specific on this someone could point out that the economy has been pretty good the last 5 years and it wasn't until Democrats took control of Congress that it faltered.
Actually, I would argue that Obambi is inadvertently correct.
The core "failure of leadership" that led to the sub-prime crisis is the phony outrage about the so-called "redlining crisis" in the mid-nineties, manufactured, like so many other bad ideas, but that quintessential Chicago Dumocrat Jesse Jackson. Unfortunately, Jesse had a pal in the White House that owed him, and the Rs quiver in fear whenever anyone looks like they might possibly be thinking about thinking about saying the word "racist," so the spineless and the stupid combined to pass a law requiring banks to give home loans to morons who couldn't balance their checkbooks. That's right, Obmabi--it was a failure of leadership by your president and your national campaign co-chairman. You wanna man up about it? |
Poll Checker: 2012 Battleground States and Leaners
A new book from Tom Elia A compilation of actual presidential & aggregate US House votes for the nation & for the 'battleground states' from 2000-2010. When Lobsters Take Flight
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