Pelosi Threat to Sue Bush Over Iraq Bill

Wednesday, May 9. 2007

Pelosi Threat to Sue Bush Over Iraq Bill

From The Hill: (emphasis added)

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is threatening to take President Bush to court if he issues a signing statement as a way of sidestepping a carefully crafted compromise Iraq war spending bill.

Pelosi recently told a group of liberal bloggers, “We can take the president to court” if he issues a signing statement, according to Kid Oakland, a blogger who covered Pelosi’s remarks for the liberal website dailykos.com.

“The president has made excessive use of signing statements and Congress is considering ways to respond to this executive-branch overreaching,” a spokesman for Pelosi, Nadeam Elshami, said. “Whether through the oversight or appropriations process or by enacting new legislation, the Democratic Congress will challenge the president’s non-enforcement of the laws.”

According to Kid Oakland? Kid Oakland??

As in, Breaking news from Kid Oakland?

Are these people serious?

Posted by Tom Elia in Politics at 00:04 | Comments (12) | Trackback (1)

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Well, I was part of that event and Kid Oakland was wearing a fedora that had a card stuck in the hatband which read 'Blog'.

That makes Kid official.

#1 anonymous commenter on 2007-05-09 06:45 (Reply)

Kid Oakland? Would he be related to Kid Rock?

#2 MarkJ on 2007-05-09 07:01 (Reply)

I think Kid Oakland's closest relation is Just Kidding.

I Support Democracy In Iraq

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-support-democracy-in-iraq.html

#3 M. Simon (Homepage) on 2007-05-09 08:11 (Reply)

That was Jerry Brown in disguise.

#4 Fernie on 2007-05-09 08:23 (Reply)

Hmmmm.

Breaking news from Kid Oakland

Sounds like a good title for an album.

#5 memomachine (Homepage) on 2007-05-09 08:52 (Reply)

Instapundit links here, suggesting Pelosi's threat would be a petulant and frivolous use of the courts. I disagree. If a signing statement changes the intent of the bill, and is immune to any legislative check, it seems like a very appropriate matter for the court. The extent of executive power has shifted and is an open question right now, one that seems to beg a constitutional ruling.

#6 Anonymous centrist on 2007-05-09 09:25 (Reply)

Fwiw, I was not contacted for that piece by the Hill. If they had contacted me I would have asked them to:

a) use my real name in place of, or in addition to, my dailykos screen name which goes back five years now to a time when there were just 2000 of us on dailykos discussing politics and the news.

b) I would have asked that they provide the context of that quote and the blog entry they pulled it from. Speaker Pelosi mentioned using the courts at the tail end of a response to a question about signing statements, not as a start point for an extended discussion. If asked, I would have told Kaplan and Schur that they would have to ask the speaker if they wanted to get a full acount of her views. I don't think pulling one sentence out of my post did the Speaker justice.

At any rate Tom, I agree that using a "user name" off a community blog for a mainstream news piece is silly, if not a bit problmatic. Of course, it's not a problem unique to one ideological point of view.

Glenn Reynolds is "Instapundit" after all.

We took these names at the very beginning of "blogging" as a trend. Fwiw, I've been open about my real name since I was Front Pager at dailykos.

Speaking of which, anyone interested in reading the full context bloggers conference call with the Speaker can read it here:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24/1685/36784

If done right, and this one was, I think on the record conference calls between politicians and bloggers are an excellent way of bringing blogs closer to the actual politics of D.C.

#7 kid oakland (Homepage) on 2007-05-09 10:44 (Reply)

Thanks for taking the time to write and for the courteous tone you maintained throughout your comment. As you know, courtesy seems to be in short supply these days in many quarters.

As for the main point, I don't necessarily have a problem with people using screen names in their posts -- though I think it's sometimes overdone, but that's just my own personal preference.

Where I have some problems with it is when someone breaking a story or doing reporting uses a screen name.

I just think it hurts the story's credibility.

As for "Instapundit," most everybody knows who he is -- I mean all of his posts have his name beneath them. I think it's pretty transparent who he is.

But your point is well-taken.

#7.1 Tom Elia on 2007-05-09 11:12 (Reply)

Thanks for the reasonable and reasoned tone...not something one often gets from a "kossak"...I for one appreciate it.

Rich Vail....of thevailspot.blogspot.com

#7.2 Rich Vail (Homepage) on 2007-05-10 04:14 (Reply)

It's self-evident that 'Kid Oakland' is a site not to be taken seriously.

Unlike 'RightWing Nut House.'

Or 'Protein Wisdom.'

Or 'The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler.'

Man, the shit you spew is almost as funky as the shit you eat.

#8 pantagruel on 2007-05-09 17:15 (Reply)

You know, I love anonymous posters -- or the ones using a screen name -- who throw their insults around like they're tough guys.

While the posters at Anti-Idiotarian Rotweiler don't publish under their own names, Jeff Goldstein and Rick Moran both do, and to the best of my knowledge, none of them breaks news stories using screen names.

Other than that, you really nailed me.

Putz.

#8.1 Tom Elia on 2007-05-09 18:30 (Reply)

Sorry to break the news to the "Constitutional scholars", but just as the Constitutional remedy for ending the war is defunding it, the Constitutional remedy for a President who is not executing the laws is impeachment.

Of course, both of those require actual courage and integrity so it's natural that Demorats won't do either.

#9 SDN on 2007-05-09 17:32 (Reply)

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